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  Frank, I owe you an apology. My prior, distasteful and unwarranted e-mail about you was unnecessary and in poor taste. I guess I got carried away and I am sorry I spoke that way about you. So, I would ask your forgiveness for that and hope you accept this apology in good faith. I deeply and sincerely apologize for what I said. I definitely had no right to do that.

  Charlie Posted May 24, 2006 8:56 PM
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  You should try volunteering sometime Frank. You may feel better about yourself, knowing that you did something for your country besides sitting in an easy chair in a fat government job the rest of your life, while some 18-year-old kid gets the hell shot out of him for doing something you were too cowardly to do. Is this articulate enough for you?

  Charlie Posted May 20, 2006 1:16 PM
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  Charlie,

  Re-read the article. All it does is allow some legislative lobbyist to set up training, it does nothing to help the vet actually get the job. So we are status quo, they don't even have to come up with another excuse to avoid hiring the vet.

  Frank,

  Too bad the soldiers, airmen, sailors, and marines that died so you could talk bad about them are so unappreciated by you. It is these men and women that allow you to spout your opinion, and just like something else, everybody has one. Statistically, it is those who can't that talk loudest against something.

  Ted at DHS Posted May 19, 2006 9:21 AM
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  I work for a VAMC on a federal facility and this law will be like countless others which are never enforced. Recently a Veteran Advocate position was posted and even though two highly qualified male veterans applied the position was given to a female who had no experience and was not a veteran. Most of our veteran patients are male. How can they feel comfortable talking to a female and one who can't understand where they are coming from since she never served in the military? Management however has a statement on all job announcements which states they have the right to hire, fire and promote as they see fit. Most positions are pre-selected before they are ever announced. It's all in who you know and not what you know. Also usually applicants on the outside usually have a better chance than existent employees. Sorry veterans, but I don't see it happening!

  GovExec.com reader Posted May 18, 2006 1:17 PM
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  Oh Frank, oh Frank ...You obviously have never served your country and it's a darn good thing you didn't. Being the veteran that I am and having worked with hundreds (if not thousands) of fellow veterans during my civil service career, I truly hope you work for DoD and on a military installation. If so, I think you can count on life getting a tad bit harder for you when all the veterans see your slanderous post. Tsk, tsk, tsk...shame on you!

  GovExec.com reader Posted May 17, 2006 8:35 AM
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  This mentality reflects the atmosphere surrounding the draft -- not an all volunteer military! There is no more reason to help a "vet" than there is to help out of work bankers, lawyers (politicians) or truck drivers. Today's vets chose the military occupation and should not receive any aid in moving to the private sector when they want to leave the military -- we already overpay them tremendously! If this government subsidy continues into the private world for ex-military we should go back to a draft. Vets received the benefits because the country required them to forgo two years in their lives to serve the county. Today's vets chose to serve the country because they generally cannot find any other job that pays as well and covers college, health insurance, pension and travel as well and requires such little work. Also remember that only about 10 percent of these people ever enter a battle zone or as the politicians who want the military vote say "stand in harms way." We should eliminate the military vote for federal and state offices because it represents a tremendous conflict of interest. We also should stop the military from sponsoring NASCARs worth millions of my tax revenues -- there is an Air Force car, a National Guard car and an Army car. I have not seen a Navy car -- I wonder why?

  Taxpayer Posted May 17, 2006 7:17 AM
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  Are they also going teach them how to spell, write and articulate? Actually having to compete for a job, even with the unfair advantage of veteran's "preference," could prove daunting, since they are used to volunteering and not having to meet any qualification standards.

  Frank Dracman Posted May 16, 2006 8:16 PM
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  This will prove to be just another trick by the government to imply it is helping vets. We have seen it all before. You can bet right now, OPM, and its "click" within the federal agencies, is already working out the "scheme" it will take to block these efforts. If Congress really wants these efforts to work, they will put one sentence in the law which states, "Any hiring authority or individual who violates this law, will be immediately removed from government employment." These tricks won't fool the vets in this country. This is just another political prank to pacify the vets, who, by the way, will soon see through this.

  Charlie Posted May 16, 2006 12:28 PM