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  Regarding reason number 10: One of the problems we face is the cost of U.S. workers. I'm not justifying the outsourcing, just pointing out the obvious. If some business owner gets the break of not having to pay the huge corporate taxes we levy against the rich, only has to pay workers pennies, and can lease his facilities for some bribery money, why would he want to pay what it costs in the states?

  A couple of decades ago we had a "Look for the Union Label" campaign. It was great, patriotic and everyone knew that it would help retain American jobs in the hands of Americans. But what happened? Those same union workers said forget these prices and bought at KMart, Wal-Mart or any other X-mart where the prices were the lowest, regardless of where the goods were made.

  Unions have done great things for workers in this nation, but they are equally to blame for the cost of our goods due to our better than world-average wages. For me, the ultimate example of this is the Saturn plant in Tennessee a few years ago, where the union employees went on strike to guarantee longevity of employment.

  Whoopsie-Daisey Posted October 20, 2005 10:07 AM
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  Lies, lies, lies - wake up America or you will just become another Third World country.

  GovExec.com reader Posted October 20, 2005 6:01 AM
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  The old INS headquarters sent a request for information on H1B visa holders to the field in an attempt to take the temperature on the fraud associated with this type of visa.

  I drove out to this high-tech corporation and found that the company had laid-off the Chinese nationals in question. I called the company's corporate offices in Boston and one of the senior in-house attorneys mouthed-off. I explained, "the law states that you have to notify the INS that an H1B employee no longer works there." She said, "Yeah, well it (the law) doesn't say when."

  "I am telling you when, now" I replied. I was stunned as the faxes poured in showing that some 142 of China's top computer scientists this company brought into the United States were running loose, completely unaccounted for, at a time when Congress was proposing more H1B visas to meet some "shortfall" in qualified computer scientists. When it comes to work visas, as the old saying goes: "Figures lie, and liars figure."

  GovExec.com reader Posted October 19, 2005 4:34 PM
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  It's a sad state of affairs that the debacle over alien removal has come down to this. Gee, so sorry to hear that this newest effort may cause headaches; hell, we wouldn't have a third of them if the Service had the intestinal fortitude to remove deportable aliens in the first place. This isn't news people...this has been going on in the 25 years of my service and long before. All it takes is to enforce the law as it's written. If they lose their case, appeal it, and lose again, send 'em packing. No more appeals to the Circuit Court, the BIA, back to the Circuit Court, tying up valuable time, money, and manpower while these subjects are allowed out on "supervised release" (another joke) and, when it's showtime, they abscond and can't be found.

  I further have a difficult time buying the argument that we can't move deported aliens because of no diplomatic relations with the country of origin. We didn't have any when the perpetrators entered illegally or entered lawfully and then violated their status so why should it be a point of contention?

  It's time to nut-up and start shifting money towards Detention and Removal instead of wasting it on SAC conferences, committees to study ways to screw our pay and benefits, and ridiculous programs to celebrate "Pork Program Recipient Heritage Month."

  The Gunny

  GovExec.com reader Posted October 17, 2005 2:12 PM
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  1. At least 4 million H-1B visas were certified by the INS between 1998-2001. Many H-1B workers are paid minimum wage as their official salary, and the rest of their salary is paid as "U.S. Living Expenses" that are non-taxable. (2003 Data)

  2. Since 1985, over 17 million visas have been issued to allow aliens to work in the United States and glut the labor market. These non-immigrant visas, or NIV, are company-sponsored visas using a variety of different names including H-1B, H-2A, H-2B, J-1, L-1, and TN. These are not immigrants, but temporary workers.

  3. L-1 workers are considered employees of a foreign company and paid by the foreign company, they don't have to pay U.S. taxes. (2003 Data)

  4. At least 800,000 highly-skilled U.S. workers are now unemployed as a direct result of the H-1B visa legislation, which failed to include protection for U.S. workers. (2001 Reporting)

  5. 1 in 5 American workers lost a job during the last 3 years. Two-thirds of workers received less than 2 weeks notice and no severance pay. Three-fourths didn't maintain any health benefits. 35% of these workers are now under-employed. (August 2003)

  6. The INS spent $31.2 million on a computer system to track visa holders that overstay their visas. The system still does not work, and the INS says it needs an additional $57 million for the system. The Department of Justice's Office of the Inspector General couldn't find any evidence that the INS was capable of locating visa violators still in the country. Washington Times 11/07/01

  7. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, 59 percent of all foreign graduate students receive government-funded financial aid, and 40 percent receive direct grants as opposed to loans which must be repaid. (2003)

  8. Illegal immigrants who enroll in the University of California system are charged in-state tuition.

  9. Students from India are given an exemption from paying taxes. (IRS Circular E, Employer's Tax Guide, page 14)

  10. Missouri residents who call a 1-800 number with questions about their welfare, food stamps, and benefits are being routed to a state call center in India! 3.3 million jobs are expected to be outsourced offshore to India and China over the next several years. (2003 Business Week)

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  GovExec.com reader Posted October 17, 2005 1:04 PM
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  The idea is novel in its thinking but would never hold up under any true scrutiny in the court system. The law was written with the borders and ports of entry in mind. Knowing that the illegal alien will win this court case every day of the week and if the illegal is even removed then ICE would be financially responsible to bring that person or persons back into the United States for a proper removal hearing. And that is something that we as a sovereign republic should never do. Let them have their day in court and then remove them once they lose. It may take a while to do it but let's do it the correct way.

  WeedwackerPD Posted October 14, 2005 7:48 AM
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  It had to happen, finally. People are starting to wake up to the horrible specter of a divided United States of (America/Mexico). The great historical novelist James Michner said as much regarding this problem in his book: Texas. Our stupid, sloppy immigration policies led us to this mess. If the illegal infiltrators, whether Mexican or Afghanis are so necessary to the functioning of our imperial society, fine. But don't discriminate against the millions of other Third/Second/First World people who are trying to immigrate here legitimately! Disband the INS, and let our vaunted free market rule! Sound ridiculous - sure. But so is meaningless 'catch and release' of illegal infiltrators. Perhaps a microchip implant would identify them...

  GovExec.com reader Posted October 13, 2005 9:30 AM