Return to Article: SES system may pave way for performance-based pay
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What a buch of cry babies. Nothing is ever good enough for you all. Get over it or don't. If you each made 200K per year with 2 months of vacation you would still complain because you think you are owed something. Pathetic, self centered little minds you all have. I hope to god we implement some sort of mental health screening before we hire any more of your types.
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The neverending nonsense continues.
The SES was supposed to be a corp. of senior executives who were expert managers and could manage anywhere across the federal sector. It became an entrenched group of senior technical specialists more interested in driving deep into a program and never, ever moving. Most of the SESers I've had the privilege of knowing would be completely lost outside of their technical program-- as managers and leaders in dealing with HR issues, abysmal failures!
The quote: Pittman recounted telling an executive who had received "outstanding" reviews throughout his career that he would be rated only slightly above "satisfactory." "The blood just left his face," Pittman said." just makes me howl in laughter.
Mr. Pittman, has there ever been an SESer who it is recorded has lost their position because of performance deficiencies-- of course not. The SESer is quietly told to leave but I challenge anyone to find a recorded case of an SESer being placed under a PIP and removed in a performance based action. So you don't get your full award in the SES this year and are skipped for that meritorious presidential award-- don't worry, your SES committee will give it to next time regardless of your performance.
If you want to make a frittata you have to break some eggs. If you want a top notch management corp. in the federal sector-- you have to break some eggs. :-))))
HR Specialist
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I talked to a woman who I think is doing a great job in an organization that has been steadily improving over the last several years. She is on one of the demonstration programs at a fairly low grade. She is trying to get a job in a traditional structure, because her pay raises have been miniscule. I suspect the SES success will not be a predictor for lower graded personnel.
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old guy, I couldn't agree more, I'm eligiable to retire next month and may do so, my experience with this pay for performance has been no SCI's in 3 years now and now the FAA has decided not to raise the pay bands. I've been at the top of mine for 2 years now....what younger workers don't realize is that whenever the gov. does something affecting pay it's for their benefit not the employee, remember the sale pitch about CSRS vs FERS, that FERS was the next best thing to sliced bread...Bullshit I stayed with CSRS knowing good and well it wasn't to my benefit to change....what really blows me away is this administration's total disregard to not only civil servants but the american public at large but yet he won relection
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What a wonderful example!! If SES were to truly get pay for performance, they would all get pay cuts instead of bonuses. Just reading about their activities in GOVEXEC would be entertaining if I weren't a taxpayer. It's a circus.
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11199
I fear the rise of sycophants. Candid feedback will virtually disappear over time. The end result will be a reduction in the quality of results for the American taxpayer.
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11196
A little advise from an old guy. Retire now, don't wait for pay for performance or NSPS. Both plans are designed to REDUCE your retirement check. Today its the award, bonus, whatever you call it, tomorrow its your salary.
You may not believe it but pretty soon it will be to late.
I am leaving as soon as I can.
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