Return to Article: Defense ends conversations with unions over personnel system
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to the responder to Gil re: the two term issue. It is obvious that Bush himself won't pay at the polls, but the party will, and most likely at the 06 congessionals. The party in power has historically lost most seats in the off year of the second term. Example, Republicans lost many seats in 58 (Eisenhower's 2nd term) and Democrats lost many seats in 1966 (Their second term, Johnson following Kennedy).
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Dear Gil commentor,
Why don't you ask that question to the family members of the almost 1,700 Americans we have lost in Iraq because let me remember-- Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction-- No, Saddam Hussein put a hit on George senior so we have Texas vengeance.
To all these Republicans-- if the heat in the kitchen gets too hot, don't let the door slam you in the you know what getting out of the kitchen-- and by the way it is bad form not to clean up the mess after cooking.
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Hey Gil, I see you haven't been keeping up on current events how do you hurt a second term President at the polls? Chances are this reform wouldn't be necessary (key word here being NECESSARY) if people did their jobs rather then whining, crying and complaining about everything under the sun.
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Nope, it's all Bushwackers fault, he's the current idiot in charge and when in charge one assumes full responsibility....besides just about all of our current problems are caused by what he has or has not done. Don't hold me to this, but I think during times of war, which this pinhead started, Congress can extend the presidency and allow a jerk like Bush to run again, but once again not sure on that one.
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I meant the party. Bush represents the party's platform and seems to have ill will toward government workers. The party will suffer at the poles. Bush is simply a "metaphor", remember...like they taught in English class.
Gil
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Uh... Gil? 4th grade civics taught me that we have a 2 term limit on the Presidency and G.W. Bush has been elected twice; how's he going to "pay at the voting booth?"
Thanks to all of you for not letting me down with your ridiculous diatribes. Is there ANYthing that is not the fault of Bush, Rove, or Rumsfeld in the mind of the LLL?
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I'd like to respond to the comparison of the FAA's pay for performance to what will be occurring in DHS and DOD - pay for performance leads to lower basic salary over time.
FAA did not raise the ceiling. Hense, salaries will start to stagnate. DOD and DHS will follow the same scheme, and to help support thier claims of pay for performance in the meantime, they will split what raises do occur between base pay adjustments (which last over time), and bonus (which only count for the rating period and do not carry over from year to year). So expect more bonuses and fewer increases in your base pay.
Combine that with DOD doing their own market pay research and computations and locality pay adjustments, on top of pay for patronage expectations and many federal employees are in for a rude awakening.
Speak up and act while you have a chance.
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We all need the help!! If Congress, the Senators and the American people don't wake up we will all be like a third world country. Bush and Rummy are breaking us!!!!!!! First close all our bases so he can send more money to Iraq. Get our children, husbands and fathers killed. (I HATE THAT SMIRK HE HAS ON HIS FACE ALL THE TIME) Let all un-Americans through our borders. Break the American people down by closing their jobs and robbing them of their rightfully earned Social Security. WHAT MORE IS IT GOING TO TAKE??? WAKE UP PEOPLE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!!!
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Did anybody really expect AFGE and other federal Unions to accomplish anything? Good grief, they won't even deal with the more basic issues like worker safety and due process of law. The meetings were nothing more than a meaningless show put on to pacify the masses. I bet that the "changes" were pre-conceived so the weakling Unions could appear to have some kind influence.
Federal employees should put their Union dues to better use until there is a new federal employees' Union that better serves federal workers.
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What was the point? Rumsfeld is going to do whatever he wants. It was just a facade.
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We never had a snowball's chance. Notwithstanding all the thousands of negative NSPS comments, violating demo project laws, ignoring unions, cheating the employees, reversing employee protections, raping time honored personnel court decisions, giving Rummy absolute rule over all Government employees, allowing issuances to be issued at the Government's whim...ad infinitum. Bush will pay at the voting booth and the bitter PILL will sour the stomach's of all Government employees.
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Geez.....what's in store now.....I've been following this pay-for-performance story with DOD all along and I wish you all the best, it sounds like DOD management doesn't march the same way as FAA management. As an employee with the FAA I've been under pay-for-performance for nearly 3 years now and in all honesty it hasn't affected me in a negative way and things continue to crank as usual. The only problems thus far is the ceiling, many employees are reaching the top of their pay band and the FAA this year didn't raise it, the other problem is the SCI (contribution assessment) process which replaced the step increases, a process which could be and maybe is being abused.....my boss gives the larger SCI to those that really stood out, usually 2 per year and rotates the smaller SCI every other year amounst the rest of us......anyway good luck to all of you.
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Well, to all the federal employees and the unions who still had hope that they could talk sense into management and stop NSPS, you lost!!!!
But the important thing to remember is...at least they got you to play their game.
Now Rummy has your "consensus." Good luck.
Retired and glad to be.
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